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posthumousluger.com — Appalled. From Mixx.com management: "We received a couple of your abuse reports...We just wanted to write you and let you know that we're not going to take sides on this issue..."

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  1. jansie jansie left a comment and deleted it.
  2. DerivativeRe DerivativeRe left a comment and deleted it.

  3. @DerivativeRe

    Actually, I've seen some anti-arab rants you've posted that they've left alone. Why haven't they banned you? I've seen you call Albionshores stupid .

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  4. @X Factor

    I've added many positive arguments on behalf of all issues, and to be frank, I never called anybody "stupid." I may have said an argument is silly, but then again, there are tens of thousands of posts here that are clearly far more aggressive in both tone and subject then mine.

    Clearly, some people are obsessed with the issue of Israel and Jews; so you missed the point completely.

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  5. THIS IS BULLSHIT! Yeah I said it! The fact that this is even posted makes me sick. Now people are airing their dirty laundry and dragging Mixx into it! Mixx commentors are NOT ANTI-SEMITIC! To even say that is both ridiculous and childish! Because a few people have different viewpoints then you cannot go and blame MIXX COMMENTERS. I am a Mixx commenter, and if I were Anti-Semitic, then quite a few of my friends in the Social Media world would not be talking to me. I am not anti- Arab either. I find it very dis-heartening that a small spat had to be turned into a blog post WITH THIS BULLSHIT headline and then shared on Mixx for everyone to see! GROW THE FUCK UP!!!

    Please feel free to report me the the Mixx offices for my abusive language~!

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  6. @SilentJay74

    Don't shoot the messenger. I just submitted the content.
    that somebody else wrote. And whether you like it or not--the submission is 100% accurate.

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  7. @DerivativeRe
    People are sharing their thoughts on the issue and are entitled to their opinions. You have submitted many anti-Arab posts to Mixx in the past. I don't mind because it is your opinion. I even recently voted one up and commented on how it is important to see both sides of the story. http://www.mixx.com/stories/281078/_lebanon_is_a_hizbullah_state_gov_t_has_become_irrelevant

    Mixx is a community where people have the freedom of speech. This blog post took everything in the comments out of context. Additionally, NEVER EVER blame Mixx for the conversation people have on their site. They didn't pull it down because they respect their users' opinions and standpoints. Plus, they can't give you preference over the other users just because your stomped your feet and whined. Mixx democratizes information and allows the community to share stories and their thoughts. It shows people the various sides of the story, unlike traditional media where you are only exposed to one angle. Social media has revolutionized the way information is dispersed and consumed.

    And the story is 100% accurate to YOU but not to everyone. If you don't like others sharing their opinion, go back to reading the newspaper and watching TV news.

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  8. @DerivativeRe Dude it is not 100% accurate. The Title Says "Mixx commenters Viciously Anti-Semitic" Mixx commenters are not Anti-Semitic. I am heavily involved in Mixx and have a lot of Jewish and Israeli friends. So this potrays Mixx as being a breading ground for hate and antisemitism, which is what pissed me off in the first place.

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  9. This is a ridiculous joke. If there were specific issues and concerns, they should have been left to reporting. Those responsible for airing the dirty laundry are the ones that should be banned if anything.

    See, with some people, you just cannot win as far as issues relating to Israel/Palestine or Judaism/Islam is concerned. Say something one way, another will get pissed off. Tolerance should flow two ways.

    By placing private correspondence on the web as 'evidence', you have totally withdrawn whatever support you could ever have claimed to have had from users. Takes a troll to know a troll.

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  10. Oh, and I downvoted this because the title of this submission is inaccurate.

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  11. @cGt2099

    I didn't publish this I only submitted it. Deal with it cause that's the reality
    of the world. You guys seem to be attacking the wrong person/s here.

    There's plenty of blame to go around--especially from what this entire
    post originated from.

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  12. @DerivativeRe
    I am not attacking anyone. I'm calling as I see it. & I'm calling this as bait for hate.

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  13. @cGt2099

    Somebody was outraged at the thread. I wan't behind it nor am I involved in it. Be that as it may, you can
    continue to attack me, if that makes you feel any better, but the original submission is a lie as well as'
    the comments subsequent. The fact that another Mixxer took umbrage at the ugliness as this, is something
    you guys have to deal with. After all, Mixx alleges that they are not like Digg. I did, in fact, report in private, anything
    I view as abusive, and contiunue to do so.

    So I would suggest that you re-read the entire basis of the content, dude.

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  14. Special interest user is........... [wait for it]..............."special". And if you don't agree, prepare to be exposed as the average non-same-special-interest-supporter that you are!

    It's all about making opinions heard... that is until someone else has an opinion; because, you know, they ARE a bigot.

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  15. @Nomadelle

    Again, the post I submitted that you searched for and just posted, was one I did not write--I submitted it--get your facts straight.

    Secondly, the comments based on the submissions are a totally different component from the submission. As far as your characterzation of my POV, those are your words you're alleging toward me--which happens to be untrue.,

    My suggestion is to look at the nasy and ugly comments from the underlying submissions, and subsequent comments, and you will see that this is not an issue of freedom of speech, rather one of hate speech.

    Obviously, Mixx is turning into another Digg. I have nothing to do with the article written. I just submitted it. My comments public and private, were exposed by a third party not me. When I got wind of the article I submitted it.,

    I'm just repeating myself, you guys are not dealing with the underlying defamation, hate, and anti-semitism of the comments of other Mixxers. Your main complaint seems directed at me, when I have nothing to do with this matter other that submitting what was in the public domain.

    You guys are keep digging yourself a deeper hole by ignoring the reality of the situation.

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  16. @DerivativeRe
    Flag on the play! You say you submitted it? Gee look at the post here, says submitted by:theposthumousluger

    So are you one and the same? Another account on Mixx huh?

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  17. @DerivativeRe

    Ok, please re-read my comment. I said, "You have submitted many anti-Arab posts to Mixx in the past." I never said you wrote it. Besides, you commented on the submission. Your opinion was clearly there for all to see. So get YOUR facts straight.

    You only think Mixx is turning into Digg because they aren't doing what you want. And the reason people are talking to you is because you are talking back. You are telling people what you think and saying that this post is 100% accurate. Plus, the person who submitted this post is the same person who WROTE the post... and yet you keep saying you submitted it and not to shoot the messenger. Interesting... Are you theposthumousluger?

    ALSO, I suggest you look up what "hate speech" is. Just in case you have no time to look it up, here is a definition:
    "Hate speech is a term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality... "

    Where did the conversation degrade, intimidate or incite violence against Israel?!?!?! These two users are exchanging their viewpoints based on the submission. They are giving their opinion about what is going on. When Jasmine mentions how some Pakistani people are against Israelis, she is talking about what other people think. Why can't she share that and educate people about how other cultures are interacting with one another?

    Anti-Semite definition: "One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews."
    The only mention of Jews was when @Yoda said that they don't believe in Jesus... Again, how is that anti-semitic?

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  18. @derivativere, Damn and I thought I had left anti-semites behind when I left Russia. To my shock and surprise my college friends would actually joke about Jews and money. Back in Russia some classmates would call me a stupid Jew but never a stingy Jew lol. That's an American invented stereotype of the Jews since so many talented Jewish people have taken full advantage of the American Dream (by getting an education and becoming successful the honest way).

    Those statements from @yoda and @jasmine can be interpreted in a variety of ways including anti-semitic. It can seem like they are taking the political issue of the war to the next level - xenophobia. I would be interested in statements about that from them both.

    The Hollywood remark sounds like simple jealousy to me.

    Anyways, I'm not going to comment on this anymore or take sides. I learned not to pay attention to ignorant and hateful remarks a long time ago. Good luck to all involved.

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  19. @DerivativeRe

    Dude.

    Again, I've called it as I see it, and that's all I have to say on the matter. I'm sorry, pal, but I am not one for the "have the last word" game, so this will be my last post here on this issue.

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  20. Don’t really see anything anti-semitic there. And definitely don’t see a point for MIXX admins to interfere..

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  21. "As leftism tends to draw the anti-Semites..."

    Erm... As the world changed while I was alseep?!

    The Main thing that "leftists" have problem with regarding Israel
    is usually its government's policies and actions NOT Jewish people themselves...

    And it's usually the "leftists" who fight
    organised racist and anti-semitic groups,
    NOT the "right-wingers"!

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  22. Hmmmph! meant to say: "Has the world changed..."

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  23. @Nomadelle

    Your putting your own words and opinions upon me. A submission is different than a comment/s. The parties in
    question put dubious and specious--that is, lying--submissions to Mixx, and proceeded into a hatefilled
    diatribe.

    You have it al wrong buddie--deal with it. I'm not this dude who wrote the article nor did I prompt the person
    to do so.

    It's based solely on their POV, and you keep discounting the underlining documentation of how it got
    to his point. As long as you keep doing that, IMO, your going to suffer the same kind of negativity
    reserved for your un-beloved Digg.

    Now, you can keep shooting the messenger--me--or you can move on and everybody can learn that words
    do matter, and I, choose them carefully.

    Some in this community do not--welcome to the real world. Get used to it--you're big boys now. Finally, I remain steadfast in my POV, and nothing, absolutely nothing would shake my belief systems.

    I question yours if you feel that that entire thread and submission was acceptable and by the people who are the shitsturbers.

    However, for the last time, I didn't write the submission nor initiate it--but I damn sure submitted it once it was in the public domain, b/c it's true.

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  24. @Nomadelle

    "educate people" say you? Look, I could just as easy go to Stormfront, Rense, or Vanguard and read the same thing/s that we're talking about here.

    You have no standards here at Mixx? So obviously people have figured that out.

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  25. @SilentJay74

    The person is not me. He has a blog and he is a Mixxer. Get used to playing in the big leagues or keep barking on the porch.

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  26. @DerivativeRe no, dude you just REPEATEDLY ADMITTED to submitting this story, under a different name. THIS WILL BECOME WIDELY KNOWN.

    THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES. EITHER YOU GO OR I START OPENING UP A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTS TOO, AND USING THEM TO DOWNVOTE YOUR STORIES THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE TO ME.

    IT'S TIME FOR THE MIXX AUTHORITIES TO STEP IN, AND DECIDE...HOW MANY ACCOUNTS CAN WE HAVE.

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  27. @cmcgill
    @kerry
    @feedback
    @kori
    @kernwill

    this person has repeatedly admitted to having two or more accounts. and he has used those accounts to downvote other people's submits.

    is this allowed, or isn't it?

    if so, i'm opening up some more accounts forthwith, and using them to nuke this persons stories.

    are we evenhanded or not, sirs/madams of Mixx.

    it's time to see where everyone stands...the abuse has gone on for many months.

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  28. @yoda

    You can allege anything you want. But your allegations are not true. Be that as it may, you may do as you please. To be frank, I really don't take you seriously at all. other than the known fact that your a known hater and an anti-Semite. While your at it, why don't you just bury the story and ban me like they do to people at Digg, of which Mixx claims that they are not like.

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  29. @DerivativeRe

    yes i can. but i dont' allege anything...im just pointing out your own words, as i've done before.

    everyone's hand is now on the table, isn't it?

    you are a hater. an anti-American.

    if you don't apologize to Jasmine in a public way, i will do everything i can to discredit you and your CLONE FUCKING ARMY. i suggest you take heed.

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  30. @SallyD

    This is typical of all of the Social Media sites.

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  31. @DerivativeRe

    attacking every Mixxer and Mixx.com itself was probably not the best move, but it may help you heal.

    i have nothing but compassion for you who, now.

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  32. i suggest everyone go look at my post and read the whole comment thread, at:
    http://www.mixx.com/stories/239180/israel_might_have_many_more_spies_here_officials_say

    this will prove very enlightening on a number of fronts.

    you will see plainly the type of Propaganda used to control...oh just go look. it's time for the Americans to wake up, and DerivateRe has just woken up quite a few of them, i suspect.

    i'm now glad that Mixx didn't delete those infuriating comments, because maybe they are wise and saw this coming.

    love, yoda.

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  33. @yoda

    I didn't attack anybody, again you use hyperbole and hysteria to make false allegation/s. I simply responded to the matters at hand in a business like and objective manner. By putting your own spin on the situation that you yourself created keeps digging yourself deeper into being perceived, and rightly so, as an anti-Semite.

    It's clear you are totally obsessed with Israel despite all of the other nations in the world--that speaks volumes in and of itself, notwithstanding your lies and smears against it.

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  34. @DerivativeRe Ah come on now! Mixxers might not be PC at times
    (and I'm guity of that too anyway) but you can't make critics about
    Israel's policies and actions look like anti-semitic comments!
    It's not fair and darn anti-democratic! Imagine if every one of us was
    doing the same about stories submitted on here that criticise
    our own respective countries... There would be no discussion
    allowed and even worst, there would be no stories submitted anymore!

    Granted, hate inciting stories have no place on here [and anywhere else] but
    stories that criticise our governments actions are still news and, let face it,
    no government on this planet is beyond criticism...

    French governments have done bad things in the past and will probably do more in future...
    Should I stop and try to bury any story daring mentioning those actions?
    Of course not! because it's NOT about the French people themselves but about their governments.
    There is a big difference there and it's very important to see it.

    Israel's governments have been accused many times of doing things they should not have done,
    especially when it comes to its secret service... So what?! It's the same with the USA and the CIA
    or France even (remember the shameful Rainbow Warrior affair?) for Pete's sake!

    So there are [allegedly] some spies from our respective countries in other countries,
    kinda comes with the job description for a secret agent methinks... If we pretend that
    our respective governments would not allow such a thing, then we are very naive...

    A lot of bad things have been done around the globe by many governments in the name
    of national interest and it's bound to piss some people off. So they talk about it and criticise
    those actions... Why not?!

    Perhaps it was not said in a diplomatic manner, but bringing the anti-semitic card at that point,
    considering that your government might not be as pure as you thought they were is not only
    a waste of time and energy but also a very dangerous move as in future if genuine anti-semitic
    comments are made (though I don't believe that will happen) on here any arguments against
    them will have been already lost thanks (not) to your blind faith into your own national elected
    representatives...

    In short: please, don't confuse criticisms against Israel's policies and actions with anti-semitism...

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  35. Do'h! I have to learn to type faster...
    My reply was to the "This is typical of all of the Social Media sites." bit.

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  36. @loup.dargent

    This is the person who initiated both the submission and the subsequent comments--I can clearly see your argument and agree;however in this particular incident this is not the case, But frequently more often then not, anti-Israel is antisemitism. No other country in the world is condemned and criticized as often as the tiny homeland of the Jews--we don't see Spain, Italy, England, etc. for example in any such way being talked about. One can only surmise that because the hate of the Jews throughout history has been mankind's weakness--it is only fair to conclude that most, but not all of the allegations v Israel are indeed antisemitic, However, that being said no country in the world is an angel--Israel included.

    To wit:

    yoda about 15 hours ago
    "no, I said Israel is the most anti-Semitic nation in the world, and i meant it and it's true.

    as I noted, a "Semite" is from Wikipedia: "The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs."

    Israel is actively repressing people that are very, very similar (read: the same) as themselves. this is not about people, race, or religion. it's about POWER (and the MONEY and OIL and LAND that flow from abuse thereof)

    look at the WALL and tell me where i'm wrong. or maybe National Geographic Magazine is anti-semitic too? they just report what they see.

    go ahead and criticize people like myself and Albionshores, i don't care, because I'm not interested in anything but the people of the world, and their wellfare.

    anyone that can read about the Wall and still say that Israel is not anti-semitic, or look at the Israeli soldiers raping, pillaging, killing, and demeaning villagers and farmers and children and elders, and still say they are "peaceful" is a brainwashed imbicile (schmuck) and needs to go there and see the carnage. Israel bulldozes people's houses in land that is not theirs.

    not only that, their own government is completely, 100% racist. 100%. it's written in their founding documents, whatever those are called.

    go ahead, Derivative and you other Zionists, tell Mixx's directors. they will probably be banning you for being supportive of WAR and MURDER OF INNOCENTS.

    you are a war criminal, DerivativeRe, i think."

    http://www.mixx.com/stories/147621/livingstone_ahmadinejad_is_barking_mad

    On a technical note, I actually didn't submit the story as this post suggests--I added it to some groups.

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  37. Can everyone just shut the fuck up and move on?

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  38. Ahem.

    The great failure of modern liberalism -- not Classical Liberalism, its morally objective forbear -- is its bankrupt, perverse, dangerous, devolved interpretation of "tolerance". One after another here, you line up, chests puffed, defending the free exchange of ideas as your religion, then you exit proud. Proud, and unaware that the world you seek is just a bit further away, your own ideals bleeding and betrayed.

    I assumed liberalism recognized that tolerance implies the necessity of it's own defense -- accept all points of view as relatively moral, and soon the wide eyed "progressive" is accepting the bigot as a treasured contributor. In our case here, the self-defined advocates of justice and equality find themselves defending the comments of one who claims a band of nefarious Jews are pulling all the strings. You all seem proud of what you've done and are doing.

    In this case it's the Jews you sacrifice to your spineless definition of "tolerance". Leaving us to fend for ourselves. Not to worry. Us Jews, and Israel, will be fine.

    Though I don't believe terribly many of you commenters are prepared for when the intolerant choose to focus their sights on the identities your selves hold dear.

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  39. @theposthumousluger

    Oh I don't know. I think we fared pretty well against the intolerant today. But, don't worry about us, mate, especially not me. DILLIGAF.

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  40. The underlying problem here is that Mixx.com has been used to forward (and dispute) issues related to the war between Jews, Muslims, and Christians that has been going on for 1500+ years. That's a sad thing but not unexpected.

    As a man who is finally freeing himself from the dichotomous dogma of Christianity I was force-fed as a result of growing up in the States, I've come to realize that when it comes to the rhetoric surrounding the Christian/Jewish/Muslim War that I DON'T CARE.

    AS LONG AS THIS CENTURIES-OLD WAR CONTINUES TO HURT AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE; I WILL VILIFY ALL WHO PARTICIPATE AND IGNORE THIS RHETORIC TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

    And you better believe I've going to vote this bullshit down.

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  41. @cGt2099

    If that's the case you sure did scream a lot, puff up your chests, beat the drums of war, and went on your tirades. If that is doing "fairly well" I beg to differ.

    On theposthumousluger's point about Modern Liberalism he is dead on--when any idea is considered to be open for discussion and even considered immoral to not hear immoral incitement, then yes, we are headed for awful times. And because the invective is massively directed at the Jews and Israel, I find that our ability and willingness to stand up for our cause to be just, right, and virtuous.

    If you actually understood liberalism in its pure form, it is for all people to have equal rights, and the freedoms that go along with that. That is not what we see at all anymore. Especially when it concerns the Jewish people.

    As I stated before, to tolerate the intolerable is just wrong.

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  42. @everybody you are wasting your breathe arguing with this "person" here and his clone army. he is constantly attacking people on a personal level and never addresses the issues and loses every argument.

    Israel is an occupying nation that has slaughtered, and continues to slaughter, many innocents, and DerivateRe supports it, and has basically insulted every EVERY Mixxer, every American, every Muslim, ever Pakistani, every member of the world including his own people.

    your well-intentioned breath, not worth this.

    later.

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  43. it feels good to be among friends.

    so DerivativeRe are you gonna apologize to the lady or are you not?

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  44. @DerivativeRe
    Dude, I really don't give a fuck
    But by appearances, judging by the amount of downvotes this particular submission you made has received,
    then the Mixx community by and large are refusing to tolerate the intolerable.

    You need to relax a little more, man. Or you're going to give yourself an ulcer.
    Sit back and have a coffee or something.

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  45. @cGt2099
    Coffee leads to ulcers, you uninformed cretin. I can tell by your comments that you are antisemitic by trying to get him to drink coffee and thus get an ulcer. Why do you want the Jewish people to get ulcers?? You are clearly no better than the rest of the bigots here at Mixx!

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  46. Of course I would not blame Mixx for all of this, but thanks for the lively discussion guys. I know I have some so called "friends" to remove from my list now.

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  47. @Honest_Ape
    Damn
    Damn Damn Damn
    I've been caught and called out

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  48. @cGt2099
    Again, you show your hateful colors. Don't you know that the word "Damn" was created to bash people of the Jewish faith? Oh, wait, of course you do. You intolerant antisemite. Or is it anti-semite? Off to my Dictionary of Intolerance I go!

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  49. @Honest_Ape
    Yeah you go read you damn dictionary
    Wait
    Would that make me anti-semantic?

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  50. @cGt2099
    Not to mention anti-syntactic!

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  51. Here is Why I voted this Down http://i25.tinypic.com/105xs49.png
    DerivativeRE We can't be perfect, we all make mistakes

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  53. bud, i'm about as anti-semetic as a person can be. i have HUGE respect for the jewish nation. yes, even a little more than for other people groups or nations (and i'll tell you why if you want to know), but this post was unnecessary.

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  54. As complaints go, this is just rubbish. Tolerance has to run both ways. This article proves that the writer has no tolerance at at, just an ability to whine about a complex situation while evidencing almost no real understanding beyond the primal Us-Them reflex.

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  55. @jansie
    I think you mean anti anti-semetic. What you just said is "I'm about as much of a Jew-hater as a person can be." Oops. It's clear what you meant, just clarifying.

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  56. There's no reason why this needed to be submitted. Seems like a bunch of pointless drama. Derivitavere, don't bother responding to this, I won't read it, I don't care what you have to say.

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  57. @calinazaret
    You may want to have an Idea though : http://i25.tinypic.com/105xs49.png

    @Everyone
    Arabs can't be anti-Semite, They have Semite ancestors too

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  58. @TunisianGuy why'd you cut off Superman's response on that? of course we know basically what that would have been...

    TG, you never fail to amaze me with your documentational abilities on these kinds of things. Mixx should offer you a job!

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  59. @DerivativeRe

    so are you gonna apologize to Jasmine or not?

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  60. Semite:

    1 a: a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b: a descendant of these peoples

    (PROOF THAT ISRAEL IS ANTI-SEMITIC)

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  61. OR that Mariam-Webster is....hmm...

    shall we take another look at The Wall and the Israeli government's structure, now?

    or can we admit that Israel is the most anti-semitic nation in the world?

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  62. @yoda
    I'm not sure they want someone Like me. They're too nice, and I tend to say what I think. It wouldn't MiXX ;-)

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  63. This is sooooo weird :

    Submitted by theposthumousluger

    but look at these comments :

    ====================

    * DerivativeRe
    * added 8 days ago

    @SilentJay74

    Don't shoot the messenger. I just submitted the content.
    that somebody else wrote. And whether you like it or not--the submission is 100% accurate.

    * DerivativeRe
    * added 7 days ago

    @cGt2099

    I didn't publish this I only submitted it. Deal with it cause that's the reality
    of the world. You guys seem to be attacking the wrong person/s here.

    * DerivativeRe
    * added 7 days ago, edited 7 days ago

    @Nomadelle

    Again, the post I submitted that you searched for and just posted, was one I did not write--I submitted it--get your facts straight.

    * DerivativeRe
    * added 7 days ago, edited 7 days ago

    @Nomadelle

    However, for the last time, I didn't write the submission nor initiate it--but I damn sure submitted it once it was in the public domain, b/c it's true.

    * DerivativeRe
    * added 7 days ago

    @SilentJay74

    The person is not me. He has a blog and he is a Mixxer. Get used to playing in the big leagues or keep barking on the porch.

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    Now, who's barking on the porch?

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  64. @axlarry
    @yoda

    Now take a look at this. The mystery deepens! We may have a third accomplice (or 3rd account):

    http://www.mixx.com/stories/641338/middle_east_and_terrorism_the_iranian_shell_game (read the comments)

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