War? Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran

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europebusines.blogspot.com — Dozens of war ships heading for the Persian gulf. Is this the beginning of the Iran war?

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  1. Sounds true, can anybody confirm this? Via Reddit fp.

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  2. War? Not yet. But a push or a catalyst for it? Certainly.

    Part of Operation Brimstone (I mean, at least pick a name at least that doesn't imply everything is gonna go to hell), it was a naval exercise much in line with the Israel air training op. That and it fits in perfectly with HConRes362 which is being pushed through. HConRes362 itself is highly inaccurate and deceptive in its wording but essentially it is a call for a US naval siege of Iran and whilst the US resolution words itself to try and pretend it is not an act of war international law disagrees.

    A naval blockade is considered an act of war.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hc110-362

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  3. Hang a sec time out. First off this is a blogspot. Second how the hell do they have this intelligence?It's not like the US Navy would say they are sending 3 CAGs (Carrier Air Groups) to a certain place and let everyone know (That is known as bad OPSEC or Operational Security). I cry BS! 3CAGs is over Kill. No need for that, also there would be no other CAGs for rapid response in case of a global emergency. This article is BS...plain and simple.

    If anyone wishes to challenge my claim as to US Naval Maneuvers and strategy, bring it, being a US Marine (Dept of the Navy) for over 9 years, I think I would have a little insight.

    Also looks like this guy just wants circulation of his blog. Read the bottom:

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    Seems WAY to fishy to me.

    1. Time out people.
      Crossed comm lines.

      Operation Brimstone isn't a hidden agenda. It has wide coverage, including the US navy:

      http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=38478
      http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/u_s_naval_update_map_july_23_2008
      http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=64422&sectionid=351020101
      http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=58745

      ►"War? Not yet. But a push or a catalyst for it? Certainly."

      It is similar in its making to what we saw the Israeli air force do over Greece and the Med about a month ago in training for. It was a naval exercise which is widely perceived as a training exercise for what be an enactment of HConRes362. (the navy website has 26MEU as being involved -see first link.)

      It was however conducted in the Mid-Atlantic. Hence the 'Not yet.'

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    2. Exactly Atlantic and Med operations is where the 26th MEU primarily operates unless world emergency happens. With that said a Marine Expeditionary Force is a rapid response Force in Readiness. We only went to Afghanistan on executive order to be the Tip of the Spear. Punch the hole let the Army clean up. But with the amount of power we are talking here, there is no spear but a BIG ASS MACE.

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  4. BTW the 26th MEU Mentioned in this article is Just finishing up their CERTEX. They are not deployed yet. So again this article is BS. Here is proof of 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit status:
    http://www.marines.mil/units/marforcom/iimef/26thmeu/Pages/OntheBrink.aspx

    I know all about them considering they are my OLD UNIT!

    1. @SilentJay74 yeah, I thought this one seemed really fishy. I'm glad for your insight.

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  5. SilentJay74: Did you read the related article? The Jerusalem Post confirmed this partly.

    1. Dude seriously I do not believe the Jerusalem Post. The fact of the matter is that this is over kill. There is no reasoon to send 3 Carrier Air Groups and Naval Battle groups to one region unless an engagement is fully underway. Also this divides the CENTCOM, PACCOM, and SOUCOM, forces from their primary theaters of operation. I also do not trust a blog from some guy who claims to have more titles than a library.

      Also, and I know this is something from left field for those that do not understand, the ships named would carry 3 Marine Air Ground Task Forces as well. Now this would be 3 Full Marine combat brigades, about 12 Marine Air Wing Squadrons, and thousands of Marine Support personnel. That is enough fire power to take over an entire country along with the Naval Air and Sea to Shore Firepower supporting operations.
      When I say MAGTAFS I mean Tanks, AMTRACS, Artillery, Helos, Fighter Squadrons F-18's and Harriers, along with Super Cobra's and 3 infantry battalions.

      Again Over Kill. If a strike were to be launched against Iran the Marine Corps and Navy would set up a staging area on land. Then hit the country. Be worried when land forces start to gather along with Battalions of ARMY and Air Force personnel staging close by.
      I can see a show of Force by sending 2 but not 3 that leaves back doors WIDE OPEN for the US. Not a good idea.

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    2. @SilentJay74 Sounds pretty realistic to me, they need all this fire power to attack Iran. Iran is a huge country with highly patriotic people. It's armed forces couldn't be defeated in the Iran-Iraq war where Saddam Hussein was backed by the US and the West as a whole.
      Now that you mention land forces. I guess you are not aware that Iran is surrounded by US and allied forces? All but one neighboring countries house US or allied troops in abundance, not just Iraq, Turkey and Afghanistan.

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  6. Again I think it is crossed communication here.

    Is there a resolution in the passing that calls for a naval blockade of Iran? Yes, it is on official US websites.
    Has there been an exercise (Operation Brimstone) which is a warning shot, creating escalation, regarding Iran? Again, yes, it is confirmed on official US websites.

    Does that mean the armada is on its way and way is determined in reaction to that response? No.

    That said an escalation other than political is not needed.

    In case anyone missed it half the world's soldiers are sitting with sand in their knickers! In 2007 a bolstered naval deployment to the gulf was announced. In addition, much off the media horizon at the time, there was an escalation in the gulf and to the east and north of Iran. Namely Turkmenistan and Afghanistan. Not only where these increments in relation to the Iraq and Afghani conflicts they were in addition. We have seen record post 2nd War Parachute Regiment (UK) deployment to southern regions of Afghanistan short of the Iranian border.

    Threat with the jab, cross with the right.

    •http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/oct/06/afghanistan.military (MY OLD REGIMENT)
    •http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/10/95746.shtml?s=os

    I know what you're thinking....
    Turkmenistan!?!!

    •http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=turkmenistan&ie=UTF8&z=5
    •http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/21/AR2006122101329_pf.html

    1. @Albionshores This makes sense, but the Bushees have started 2 other wars for insane and fraudulent reasons:

      Afghanistan to track down the 9/11 terrorists although 16 of 17 were from Saudi Arabia and to liberate Afghani women, which they both didn't. In contrast the heroin production exploded after the Taleban were defeated.

      Iraq was attacked due to WMDs which was a lie as well as the Saddam Hussein Al Qaeda connection lie.

      So do not expect any common sense here in all this insanity. Bush may even start a war to prevent Obama from winning.

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    2. @onreact.com
      Again I think crossed communications and I think the heart lies in, "Armada heads for Iran".

      Is that a positive statement or an an inquisitive supposition?

      Well let us allow some credit to the Jpost. Perhaps there is a 'bolstering' in the making. But the evidence remains that there already has been bolstering BEFORE the current, most recent, arguments against Iran. Time will tell.

      However if you impose a positive inquisitive supposition to the blog (and I am not opposed to blogs pushing and forcing questions - only that they are held accountable to that questioning as this thread is doing) then the active deployment has not yet been confirmed.

      That said clearly there has been an argument to war from the Administrations of both Israel and the US. Now by the means of the Israeli Med and the US Pacific exercises that, the threat, has been enacted. H.Con.Res. 362 clearly advocates an ability of putting the naval exercise of 'Brimstone' into action - that is, and already has been, construed thus.

      The argument for war against Iran thus far has been fraudulent. The current report (submission -and supported from numerous sources) does not argue that it is fraudulent - but that unwarranted pressure is being applied. Perhaps it is not correct in implying that war manoeuvres are actually underway....but that military pressure is being applied.

      *THAT SAID I think your article has been unfairly down-voted in part of the ongoing Mixx war against blogspam. For its merit it has provided both an important conversation and in part has been corroborated by government websites even if the exact meaning of the headline has been ambiguous.

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    3. @Albionshores I don't think a war will be confirmed to the media before the actual shooting starts. To believe that would be utterly naive.

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    4. @onreact.com
      In effect the shooting already has! Unfortunately. Disregarding the black ops. War these days can be fought on numerous frontiers and sadly we remain unaware. 'War' itself remains a label, a brand name, something to be sold to the public like Gucci.

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  7. voted for this based on the quality of the discussion

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  8. Please stop genocide of Ocetian nation!

    Starting 1989 nationalistic fascist Georgian government tries to annihilate and expel Ocetian nation from its territory. As the result of Georgian warfare against small nations, tens thousands of Ocetian, Abhasian, Armenian and Russian people died since 1991. The scale of genocide is concealed by Georgian mass media. Brutality of Georgian fascists and freaksville torture of the local population overrode the torture of fascists during the Second World War.

    Georgian mass media stir up the sickness of Georgian nation – they believe they are only people deserving life on Georgian territory, they are exclusive, elitist; other nations should move out or be killed.

    At the moment the tragedy is happening – Georgians systematically shooting dead the Ocetian people in their own houses or burying under the falling homes.

    Georgian fascists destroyed Ocetian settlements and town Tskhinvally – they lay even with the ground.
    The number of victims buried by Georgian fire under the ruins cannot be calculated – it is amounted to thousands.
    Georgians destroyed all hospitals. Medics cannot work under the fire of Georgians. People saved in underground stores do not have food, water, electricity, gas for 3 days – they cannot go out because of Georgian fire and cannot move out of town because Georgians are trying to take hold with tanks and armored vehicles of the only road from the town to tunnel controlled by Russians.

    At that Georgian president insincerely is saying that he tries to make constitutional order and peace, and suggesting lefthandedly to cease fire. All his actions are aimed towards USA and NATO (he even speaks with his nation in English so that you understand him).

    USA has strategic interest in region – pipeline going through Georgia. So official government of USA will never realize that Georgian president is criminal politician betrayed its nation (in fact people in Georgia do not want war), instead government of USA will support him (several hours ago a train with NATO armored machines came to Georgia).

    The next victim of Georgian fascists will be Abhasian nation.

    People in USA and Europe please force your politicians to stop Georgians!

    1. @fa_mike Wrong thread

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  10. Voted up because I love to hear Jay get all military up in this bitch!

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    The truth about South Ossetia War, Georgia attack, and Russia's response
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhyZjNApBg

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