"Iran reviewing six-nation package with constructive view" view story

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1. • DerivativeRe

   What a boatload of crap. Breaking News? Just more delays and excuses by the Iranian regime. Your unhealthy obsession/s and lying for this regime is certainly noteworthy.

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2. • Albionshores

   @DerivativeRe
   That's not very nice. The article was at the time of submission only 45 minutes old in China and they're on the other side of the world!!! I don't see what your problem is....the IAEA, the EU, even Bush have all recently said that diplomacy should be the way forward. Now Iran is making similar noises and you want to dismiss it!!! Where are your priorities?

   Here is a chance for diplomacy to be successful....what would you have the Iranians say?

   http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/27/AR2008062703099.html

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3. • JPress

   @Albionshores

   Diplomacy, chance, Ahmadjinemadman, nuclear, imam mehdi, 3 years. Notice I am not saying Iranians, mad man is driving even Iranian people mad. They hate him but can't change him. Any government that wants a change would have do it in last 3 or so years, he is just buying more time with a hope for a breakthrough in nuclear technology.

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4. • Albionshores

   @JPress
   ►"They hate him but can't change him."

   What you mean by not voting for him like they did in the last gov election in 08? Where Ahmadinejad's party on the day got 88 seats out of 260 hamstringing his party! Like making him face a presidential election next year....

   .....like Ahmadinejad opponents being elected into positions of authority; chair of the Assembly of Experts Rafsanjani who is for open discussion with Washington......

   It goes on....google it. The Iranian people have it covered.

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5. • JPress

   He will still have his grip on the power. Don't forget that his main support comes from the small cities and rural towns, where people are more religious and traditional. There is no way that he will quite so easily. It will take quite some time for reformists to clean his trash.

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6. • JPress

   Checkout this video, http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=613_1212499145 interesting part starts around 4:30.

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7. • Albionshores

   @JPress
   What next year??? You can't wait that long, you can't wait until the Presidential election? There's no evidence of an active nuclear weapons programme and their currency is inflating away. There's no threat.

   Attack Iran and create a radicalisation effect. The Iranians won't thank you for it....not after having had regime change thrust on them in 1953. Bush and Olmert both have shocking approval ratings....not a single American or Israeli would welcome an invading liberation force and rightly so. Iran is no different. Sure people would like to sell the idea of it being a dictatorship but its not; not by a long chalk. Perfect state definitely not but the Iranian people are more than capable of sorting out their own affairs.

   I watched your video - thankyou. It proves exactly what I've been saying. Perfect state no but the Iranians have it covered....like the guy says there's been loads of videos about it and people are speaking out. Police brutality is not a reason to invade or attack a country.....IMPORTANTLY THOUGH:

   I KEPT WATCHING THE VIDEO.....

   ....PAST 4minutes 30.....

   .....past 8 minutes 30.....

   .....AND THEN AT 12 minutes IT GOT REALLY INTERESTING!!!!!

   "You can't get foreigners to interfere.....that's worse"

   The last two minutes is how this chap is saying the change must come from the Iranians and attacking Iran would cause Iranians to back any Iranian over an aggressor putting back the Reformist cause! This gentlemen who has experienced firsthand is arguing the EXACT same point that I have been arguing and is evidence that Iranians can and must bring out about the changes themselves.

   THANKYOU......EXCELLENT FIND!!!

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8. • Albionshores

   @JPress
   Hope you don't mind. Liked it so much I had to submit it to Mixx. Cheers buddy.

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9. • JPress

   Again, I did not say attack Iran, bomb Iran, destroy Iran. I said its been going for last 3 years, at least. All he (madman) is trying to do is to buy some more time for the research. You don't know what is going to happen next year. There is a possibly that his people will come up with something (with a help of russians and chinese of course) and boost his ego higher than as it is.
   If you noticed they guy was describing how the religious and regular police works, mostly rural area people, devoted to the religion and madmans like the current president. It is not going to be easy for everybody else in the country.

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10. • Albionshores

    @JPress
    I know that they're not going to have a nuclear weapon by next year. The IAEA says so!!!
    They have said that they have not seen any evidence of an active nuclear weapons programme and if they were to start one then they'd be at the very least 3 years off!!! Plus they'd have to drop out of the NPT first because the inspectors are watching all their enrichment (its low- under 5% far too low for weaponisation). Other intelligence agencies say it would be more, closer to 10 years!

    Ahmadinejad is a none argument. The Iranians have him covered and there's nothing he can do. That said look at the submission you red-arrowed! ;)

    Iran is warming to open diplomacy....their recent offer of negotiation even had them sharing terrorist info, helping post Saddam Iraq (they are already providing electricity) and contributing to bringing stability and peace for Israel and Palestine.

    Now is it going to be easy for the Iranian people....absolutely not but they've got it covered! Most importantly here is somebody saying how Iranian people will respond to an attack - it'd set the reform movement back. Am I all for Iranian reform?....totally but it has got to be them that do it - and this clearly shows that in these rural areas they're having parties and wearing makeup and blogging....my word the Iranians apparently love blogging. Even the Iranian taxi driver was agreeing with the guy in the video. GREAT...we have the working man...the kids....the mothers....the daughters.....the women.....even the video says that it is the uneducated that are used for this heavy handed policing. GREAT AGAIN....we have the educated!!!

    Will reform be easy....no, but so what. It's still worth doing. We'll do our bit, I hope, by not attacking and thus marginalising your reformist movement.

    GO REFORMIST IRAN!!!
    Yey :D

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11. • Albionshores

    NO NEED TO ATTACK IRAN.

    VICTOIRE!!!
    VICTOIRE!!!
    VICTOIRE!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkysPiqyVCE&feature=related

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12. • Albionshores

    @Albionshores
    Ah if we're going to have a fun escape to victory clip I should picked this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0TfgBwgHNs

    The power of people :)

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13. • JPress

    @Albionshores
    "I know that they're not going to have a nuclear weapon by next year. The IAEA says so!!! "

    Since when do you trust IAEA ? Notice, they are not speculating about near future, or 4-6 years as previously thought or just impossible at the current time. He is giving a time frame, 6 months to 1 year.

    Btw, I know your distrust to MEMRI, and yes I saw the video you posted about them on youtube.

    http://www.jihadpress.com/2008/06/iaea-director-general-dr-muhammad-elbaradei-iran-can-produce-enough-enriched-uranium-for-a-nuclear-bomb-in-six-months-to-a-year/

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14. • Albionshores

    @JPress
    LOL. I know MEMRI TV is corrupt but let me just post it anyway. Are you serious. For the record I did not post it on youtube but I was already aware that it is a cointelpro outfit to further policy not news and that it has received a lot of international criticism. I just think it sums it up nicely and concisely to some good music.

    But where are my manners? Nobody else will know what video we're talking about. Here it is, I like the music it is put to too.

    •http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OX16mQjKhw

    Notice the other news agencies didn't run with the story when Memri did. There's a reason for that. Even the memri article shows how it is being distorted to make a quick clip. Notice ElBaradei said what Iran could do if all its centrifuges were running in cascade and with the ore it has. Then he said 6 months to 1 year BUT that it would have to drop out of the NPT first. IT HAS NOT.

    That they'd have to use all their centrifuges. LOOK AT THE IAEA REPORTS; THEY CAN'T!!!!
    Their cascades keep failing!!! They can't keep a few dozen centrifuges on line....let alone 3,000!
    And the ore is under IAEA SEAL!!!!

    El-Baradei answers a technicality....if all cascades were running, if the inspectors weren't there, if they gathered all the ore they had....it would just be enough for one bomb. As soon as they tested it we'd know that was their last one. LOL! But they can't - which is why in October 2007 El Baradei was saying 3 - 8 years and in the latest statements they were still saying at the earliest 3 years but probably a lot longer!
    •http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2214711120071022

    But to then put a MemriTV article as evidence which comes from site which openly affiliates itself with rightwing hate sites is hysterical.....why would you do that to your own credibility?

    The JihadPress Fanbase....the website you just quoted. LOOK AT THE NAMES OF SOME OF THE AFFILIATES!!! •http://www.jihadpress.com/2008/06/iaea-director-general-dr-muhammad-elbaradei-iran-can-produce-enough-enriched-uranium-for-a-nuclear-bomb-in-six-months-to-a-year/

    OMG!

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15. • Albionshores

    @JPress
    "Since when do you trust IAEA ?"

    Yeah those damn pesky inspectors with their evidence and expertise......

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16. • JPress

    @Albionshores
    
    rightwing hate site? :)) I would guess daily kos kids have more authority in your eyes than any other website, or even AP in that case.
    I was reading your past comments, and thought for once there is a person who does not change his mind based on BS that MSM pushes, but was i wrong.

    ->Notice the other news agencies didn't run with the story when Memri did. There's a reason for that.

    Yes, there is a reason, most of the current news agencies are corrupt themselves. They are not interested in real news, since that does not bring much of an audience. There is a new hype, called " Blame the USA" which glues people to their screens and brings money to MSM corporations.
    

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17. • Albionshores

    @JPress
    Yup rightwing hate sites, that's what I'd call em.....ranging from downright rightwing extremism or to anti-muslim forums. They're there for people to see.

    And you really expect El-Baradei to have said something like that and none of the world's media...information age dear-boy:you can get news from everywhere.......none of the world's media picked up on it except the clearly manipulative MEMRI TV.

    Yeah, righteo....
    But seriously, thanks for the liveleak video. That was awesome dude.

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18. • JPress

    righteo, righteo righteo, righteo r.. is that your mantra ? :))
    
    So you suggesting MEMRI put their puppet in there and start recording it ?:) you man funny. If you know the language you would not be so sure with your allegations.

    Liveleak does have some good stuff on it, unlike youtube where nothing but crap left around, so enjoy the video.

    Ohh btw I post often on that "righteo" website you talking about, the www.JihadPress.com. We have a lot of stuff, do check it out, don't worry nobody is gonna try to convert you to a "righteo".
    
    What amuses me is, once there is nothing decent to say people like you start tagging others with such words as "muslim haters", "righteo" or even better "blood drinkers".

    Time to hit the night clubs, New York is famous for a night life.

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19. • Albionshores

    @JPress
    "So you suggesting MEMRI put their puppet in there and start recording it ?"
    No I'm saying they put the subtitles on there and chose the clip and they gave it a headline which didn't accurately carry the message that El-Baradei was saying. Don't worry - I corrected that wrong.

    MEMRI TV.....you might as well have said Bill O' from Fox.

    P.S.
    Righteo does not mean someone on the right. It is means right-ok as in similar to one saying okey-dokey. There's nothing wrong with being right wing......we are talking about extremists here.

    P.P.S.
    It is not I who tagged these sites as "muslim haters" but THE SITES THEMSELVES!!!

    Want an example?
    LOL. Righteo!
    When GOOGLE ADS PWN AN ANTI-MUSLIM FORUM (one your site affiliates with):

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/2621590376_0a2483b7d3_o.jpg

    ROTFLMAO!!!

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20. • Albionshores

    EPIC FAIL!

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21. • Zecchetti

    @Albionshores

    LMAO at http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/2621590376_0a2483b7d3_o.jpg

    PWNED!!!

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22. • Albionshores

    @Zecchetti
    :D

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23. • Zecchetti

    @Albionshores

    Disclaimer: WE DEFINETLY DO NOT ENDORSE ANY ADS THAT ARE PRO-ISLAMIC!!! The ads above are placed here by Google with the permission of MFBB. It is their right as owners of this service and it's how they are able to provide a free service to people like us. Some of them are good as I have clicked on a few of them that are obviously Christian or Jewish in nature or has something to do with any of the subjects that we discuss here. I remember even buying a dvd from one of the advertisements. This forum DEFINETLY does not support Barak 'Hussein' Obama or Hillary Clinton. and would rather had anyone else other than McCain as the republican frontrunner, but it's looks like we are down to another lesser of two evil election again... *sigh* Gbu all

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24. • Albionshores

    @Zecchetti

    Damn those guys are smarting because of that advert. LOL.

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